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Advanced Forum Link Building

21. Jan 2009 | 16 Comments

As part of your affiliate link building strategy forums should not be overlooked. They are endless sources of linky goodness waiting to be tapped into.

Why? Well for starters you have the ability to control a large number of factors:

  1. The theme of the page you’re getting the links from
  2. The number of links you’re attaining
  3. The speed at which the links are acquired
  4. The anchor text & associated page for the link (i.e. deep pages)

You also have an almost infinite inventory out there (1.8 billion results).

Negative Press & Controversy

Since you have editorial control over forum links many people in the industry regard them to be of little or no value, including Matt Cutts himself:

For some reason, I hate signature links. Hate them.

Whilst I don’t disagree with Matt & understand his reasons for not liking these particular types of links, but Google has decided to stick to  an algorithm that favours “voting” (in the form of links) & whilst that is still the case SEO’s & Online Marketers will continue to do whatever it takes to game the system rank.

This guide will cover all of the techniques surrounding link building with forums, from the very simple to the downright dirty.

Don’t expect to get magical results with just forum links, but if you have a  well rounded & natural link profile forum links do work.

These are legitimate ways to build links, as always please try to keep it relevant & useful, there’s no point spamming your links on thousands of forums because:

  1. It won’t look natural to have 90% of your inbound links from forums
  2. You might trip some spam filters & could risk a penalty
  3. More than likely your posts & links will get deleted = waste of time

So sit back, make a cuppa & enjoy.

Keeping Track of Forums

You’ll want to get an excel spreadsheet to track all the forums you use:

Username: Rotate this on every forum, any good mod might search on Google using your username to see if you’ve been doing the same on other forums. Do a search for username generator if you’re running out of ideas.

Passwords: I use Roboform to fill all the other information when signing up. Except the username.

URL’s: You’ll want to keep a record of your Profile URL & the URL to any threads you post in (we’re going to run a check on which links are still live & for how long).

Finding Forums

Google provides some handy operators for finding forums. You’ll obviously need to find something that relates to the keywords you’re using so replace keyphrase with the keyword you want to search for i.e. affiliate marketing.

inurl:forum keyphrase
intitle:forum keyphrase

Vbulletin – inurl:showthread.php keyphrase
Invision – inurl:index.php?showtopic= keyphrase
PHPBB – inurl:viewtopic.php keyphrase
Simple Machines – inurl:index.php?board= keyphrase
Phorum – inurl:list.php? keyphrase
YABB – inurl:YaBB.pl? keyphrase
MyBB – inurl:forum- keyphrase

You’ll also need to check whether the forum allows dofollow links, there’s plenty of useful firefox extensions but I just use the SEO for Firefox, it highlights links that are nofollow which enables you to identify whether or not the forum is passing link equity.

Links in Forum Signatures

Forum signatures are the bread & butter of this link building exercise, your signature will show on every post you make therefore making it quite a lucrative spot.

Quick Tip – If you’re a member of a forum & have thousands of posts already you can utilise this signature space right away. It’s also an option to PM other members & buy advertising in their signatures (this can be good for targeted traffic also if the forum is on topic with your site).

A typical forum signature should contain descriptive links to deep pages within the site(s) you want to promote. Here’s a good example:

Forum Signature

The above example is from a webmaster forum & looks pretty spammy. There’s a few tricks you can use to avoid this:

  1. When you sign up to the forum don’t post your signature right away. Join in on the conversation for around 10-20 posts then come back in a few weeks & add your signature then. You’ll draw less attention to yourself this way. With this method you need to be sure that your signature will be added to all your old posts though (some forums disable or don’t have this feature).
  2. Sometimes less is more, 1 link is much less noticeable & spammy.
  3. If you’re trying to post more than 1 link try to create a sentence: I’m in the market for a new web host at the moment, nothing fancy so PM me if you can recommend any, there’s some decent reviews at this affiliate marketing blog but I just can’t make up my mind!
  4. Test what’s working, if you’re having a high removal rate then obviously the way you’re doing things is not optimal.
  5. If the forum allows you to style your links you can make them smaller, or even change the colours to make them look less obvious.

Profile Pages

The good thing about profile pages is that there’s less link leakage then in the main threads. Most profile pages allow you to add a link, Often they’ll show your signature too, so make sure you use this space.

Links in Posts

Naturally you can (other than your signature) add keyword rich links in posts. This can be risky, because you’ll always bring attention to yourself by bumping an old post to the top.

A great example of a company that executed this strategy perfectly is our old friends over at Xrumer (which incidentally is a forum spamming software). They simply used their software to sign up to thousands upon thousands of forums then instead of dropping a link back to their own site they asked a very simple question:

Has anyone heard of Xrumer? What is it?

People would then literally reply back in the thread linking to the Xrumer website with an overview of what the software is. Talk about getting other people to do you legwork?

Editing old posts

There is however a sneakier way to drop links in posts & that’s making 10 – 20 posts in the forum (in authoritative threads about your topic) then going back in a few weeks & editing your post to include your links. Some forums disable this feature so it’s work checking to see if you can actually edit posts.

You can do something similar with signatures, participate for a while then go back & add a signature which will then get added to all your posts. Again some forums disable this feature & will only include the signature you have live when you make the post.

Images & Smilies

Often overlooked these are perhaps the easiest ways to drop links in posts. The smiley in particular is very sneaky, 99/100 no-one ever suspects someone hiding a link in a simile :)

Something like this should work on vbulletin [url=http://www.earnersblog.com/]:)[/url]

Questions

As I mentioned with the Xrumer example above people on forums love to answer questions & help people out. If you can get them to inadvertently link to you at the same time then you’re onto a winner. This technique works much better with brands than generic affiliate websites, but even if you’re asking a questions like:

Do you know any good places where you can watch sky tv on your pc?

Get people to respond then go back in a few weeks & turn the “watch sky tv on your pc” into a nice anchor text link to your affiliate site.

Final Thoughts

All of the above techniques can be a laborious process. There’s plenty of people on known webmaster forums that will do the grunt work for you. The key here is to do little & often, don’t blast 100 links a day because it won’t look natural at all.

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16 Comments on "Advanced Forum Link Building"

Joey 22. Jan 2009, 1:34 am

Thanks for this guide. I have heard all the taboo associated with forum links but it seems that everyone still uses them for traffic and seo purposes.

Leo 22. Jan 2009, 3:20 am

I know that a lot of folks use forums solely to build backlinks via anchor text but I have to wonder why.

Since forums are social outlets, you would think that the smarter thing would be to actually contribute to the conversation and leave a signature as a means for that audience to find you in the black hole we call the internet, right? After all, I would personally think that if your material on your website is good, you may actually have someone come by, take a look and you may convert them.

Thinking of forums as a flytrap for links is just the wrong way to go about things. Besides, there simply isn’t enough link juice or authority with forum links to warrant an all out assault.

Just my opinion though.

affiliateguru 23. Jan 2009, 11:26 pm

Hi,
Thanks for that brilliant update on link building. Never thought forums could work out this way. But, in spite of all this, don’t you think that blogs are a far better option as far as link building is concerned since, blogs portray a lot more authority than forums do.

Jenn 29. Jan 2009, 10:11 am

Great Article! I think forum links have lost enough value to where they are now considered useless. Do-follow blog links are still ok…for now.

Cords 30. Jan 2009, 9:14 pm

Nice! Forums are supposed to be a means of finding answers and getting information, even if your motive for posting is inbound link building to your site. You can’t expect people to leave useless spammy comments on their blogs or forums. Offer some useful content that will contribute to the thread or stop wasting your time.
Content is (still) king.

spidro 02. Feb 2009, 11:12 pm

Nice article , i still use forums to promote my affiliate sites, sometimes it sent really good traffic and other time no, its time consuming process but still worth it

Jenn 04. Feb 2009, 9:25 am

Thanks for the great post! I never thought about placing a link in a smiley. Thats Genius!

Picky Boot 12. Feb 2009, 4:46 pm

Get links from the forums are really easy as you said and moreover we must be careful that we just doesn’t Spam the board. But the techniques you have given to create the backlinks are really awesome which could be done effectively.

Domainer 30. Mar 2009, 9:24 am

arrr…got to try the link in the smiley. Its really spammy, but with a great comment…why not.

TonyB 02. Apr 2009, 9:46 am

Hi Everyone,
I have a carpet cleaning business in Houston,TX that was doing pretty good until the economy went bad, and with it my clientele. I have a website for the business but I dont
know what I have to do the get it to show up in a search. Right now it’s somewhere in the yahoo/google netherworld (LOL).

Is there someone on here that can give me some insight or know of anyone that coud give me insight on how I can get my local website on the front
page of a Yahoo or Google search to increase my business without it costing me 5 or 10k $$$? If so please share with me.

I thank you and my hungry over-eating children thank you.

thanks,

RevenueRank Affilliate Marketing 14. Apr 2009, 11:53 am

Thanks with your tips. Your advice on put the signature after 10-20 post is good to build the genuine of your post. However, I think this will be little bit longer time to build it.

Soomaixerrems 24. Apr 2009, 10:20 am

I’m the only one in this world. Can please someone join me in this life? Or maybe death…

Hesimporptorm 27. Apr 2009, 11:41 pm

Hello all,

I’ve recently joined this site

There are some great posts here to learn

I’ve just setup my blog and am hoping to use these promational methods

will like to make some new friends along the way

Thanks all

Jeremy 24. May 2009, 6:29 am

These tips are a bit blackhat but they’re also very clever. Most people who promote their website on forums are way too spammy and if the posts don’t get deleted, it makes them look bad. Of course only the people reading it will see their spam and it will help them in the SERPs, but still… don’t spam. Contribute something to the forum you’re posting on.

Shane 24. Oct 2009, 7:45 am

The link in the smiley really made me laugh! What a great and terribly spammy idea!
Overall this is a very good resource, thanks a lot for putting it together. I’ll be sure to try all (well, let’s say “most”) of the techniques described.

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