Which other industry gives you this much Freedom?

I’ve been following a thread on Wickedfire closely over the past few days that talks about dodgy affiliate networks. I realised that I’d never really covered this topic in any detail on the blog, so here’s my spin on it all.

Dodgy Merchants

It’s inevitable that if you’re trying out hundreds of merchants every month you’ll eventually run into a few dodgy ones. It’s easy to think that everyone in this industry is nice & “looking out for one another” but if you think that then you need a serious reality check.

You’ve got three types of merchants

  1. Those that manage their affiliate program in house with a dedicated team
  2. Those that outsource the management to a network but still approve the leads/purchases themselves
  3. Those that manage the program by themselves (1 man show)

Speaking from experience I’ve had trouble from all three types. But, most of the time it’s from numbers 2 & 3.

So what are the ways that merchants can cheat you out of your well fought after commissions?

Scrubbing Leads - This is unfortunately very common in our industry (especially in the adult space). It happens at the merchant level & at the Network level. This basically means that the merchant or network won’t credit a certain number of your leads, pocketing the profit for themselves & you won’t even know it’s going on.

How to combat - There’s only one real way to combat this & that’s to generate your leads locally, or get friends to generate leads for you & catch the merchant red handed. Bottom line is, if you suspect your merchant is doing this move on….quickly.

Lead Lag - This is quite common in the financial sector & relates to the processing time of applications for loans or credit cards. Make sure that the merchant is regularly approving or declining the leads that you’re sending through.

How to combat - A quick email to your AM or their manager will usually get the ball rolling on this issue. If the leads lag too long just switch merchants & save yourself the headache, their loss.

High Refund Rates - I’ve come across a number of merchants in my time that have a very high refund rate. This is one to be very wary of, especially in the financial space. If it’s your job to provide someone with a “lead” then the merchant should not be entitled to refund it for a failed application, but some merchants just don’t get what the meaning of a lead really is.

How to combat - There’s no way around this, if there’s a high refund rate then call the merchant & ask for an explanation. If it’s not worthing pursing then just move on.

Test Orders - I also get these ones from time to time, it’s possible that the occasional one or two is fine but any more than that & you should start to get worried. Why on earth are you testing so many orders under my affiliate ID, don’t you have a test ID?

How to combat - Ask the question above.

Bidding on their own Brand with an Affiliate Tracking ID - This is one of the ones that pisses me off the most. I can do all the work & presell to the customer but if they decide to go away, think about it & then come back through typing the brand into Google the merchants Cookie will overwrite mine. This is extremely common & is something that I check for before starting any campaign.

How to combat - If you can, outbid the merchant on their own brand & test how many other affiliates they’re ripping off ;)

Non Payment - Perhaps the worst thing is not getting paid for all of your effort & hard work. Remember from time to time merchants can be late with payments or perhaps forget, but there’s a difference between a late payment & not getting one…ever.

How to combat - Email your account manager or affiliate representative first, if there’s no response then try again. If you’re talking to a brick wall then get in touch with a lawyer, they’ll write you up a letter that may provoke a response. Remember to try & research potential merchants as much as possible before you put any serious volume through them & ALWAYS have a backup incase things go belly up.

Dodgy Affiliate Networks

Running In House Campaigns - If you were an affiliate manager who was paid on the performance of their affiliates & you had access to “what was working” would you run your own campaigns? Well, there’s plenty of AM’s out there that do this & you have to cover your tracks to not give away any secrets.

Keeping your campaigns secret not only protect your profits, but they also protect your niche. Ever been bidding on a keyword with 0 competition then almost overnight you’re up again 1 or 2 competitors?

How to Combat -

Use Redirects: PHP redirects generally pass the referrer string right through so you’ll want to use a redirect that doesn’t. Meta Redirects or Javascript redirects normally do this pretty well (remember that some people do turn Javascript off). When I want to keep stuff really hidden I’ll use double redirects to prevent the AM from back tracing the redirect or seeing the real redirect as a referrer.

Encode your SubID’s: If you rely heavily on Sub ID’s don’t go naming them stuff like subid=affiliate_marketing_blog, you may as well give away your top converting keyword list on a plate. It should look something like subid=9954412, if you don’t know how to code then simply put the real subid value in a spreadsheet. If you’re a dab hand at PHP you could create a simple tracking script of your own that will identify the subid with the real search term in your stats.

Stand your Ground: Don’t let the network bully you into revealing your traffic sources once you start killing it with your campaign. If the traffic stands up on the merchants end then they network have nothing to worry about (except you not giving your campaigns away ;)) Bottom line is that they won’t risk losing you if you’re sending a decent amount of leads.

These are just my experiences over the years, I’ve learnt to become much more secretive about how I do things (especially when it’s PPC). I’d love to hear your experiences & what measures you take to protect your IP. Please don’t name any networks in the comments.

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19 Comments on "Dealing with Dodgy Merchants & Affliate Networks"

Matt 05. May 2008, 10:39 pm

I have a merchant where I have an adwords pixel on the thank you page and it’s a ecommerce transaction. I noticed there are more conversions being reported than what is showing up in my network report. For example, yesterday I had 2 transactions showing in my network, but 3 conversions in my adwords report… and each of those 3 were for a separate keyword so something seems awry. Are there some logical reasons for this difference?

Affiliate17 05. May 2008, 11:31 pm

Very useful information, we should definitely exchange ideas sometime

Vanya 06. May 2008, 2:04 am

God knows how much I’ve lost!!! Thanks for the tips!

finspin 06. May 2008, 2:51 am

[1] Matt, I have the same problem. Numbers in my AdWords/Yahoo conversion tracking stats are higher than in my aff network stats. The difference is not that big but still I was wondering if there is some logical explanation for that or are they just ripping me off.

Thanks for this informative article.

Nick 06. May 2008, 5:29 am

Hey Stu,

Nice post as usual.

“Meta Redirects or Javascript redirects normally do this pretty well (remember that some people do turn Javascript off). When I want to keep stuff really hidden I’ll use double redirects to prevent the AM from back tracing the redirect or seeing the real redirect as a referrer.”

Could you please explain how to do this? How would you hide the referring page?

Thanks,

Nick

Jon 06. May 2008, 10:00 am

“Bidding on their own Brand with an Affiliate Tracking ID”
… how do you tell if it’s a merchant using a tracking ID or just another affiliate?

@Matt & finspin…I had the same thing, then one day after putting a statscounter code on the landing page, I noticed that people were arriving via an alexa search for something like “thanks for the order”

They were trying to find a backdoor into digital download pages. Looks like alexa will index pages even if they have “no index” tags, or if they are only available through an order redirect.

More here: Alexa Search Offers Online Crooks a Helping Hand

Evan 06. May 2008, 10:46 am

Great post…affiliate can lose orders unless they are vigilant to followup with affiliate managers…

QuadsZilla 06. May 2008, 1:52 pm

What you call “Scrubbing” is correctly called “Shaving”. Scrubbing has to do with a pre-approval process designed to lower the likelyhood of accepting a fraudulently credit card.

Naghty Neo 10. May 2008, 4:54 pm

As an adult webmaster, I agree with you on scrubbing and branding problem. The big sponsors do not engage in lot of scrubbing. But branding is a big issue.
This is becoming more and more in general and reality type pay sites where the sponsors is selling their brand name more than the membership. They know once the name of the site is pushed into the minds of surfers, they will come back and buy for which the sponsors don’t have to pay to affiliates.

Having said that, I must agree that adult sponsors are much better than those Ebook merchants who will pop-up an email collection box with free stuff offer. We spend money on adwords, do pre-selling and carry them to the merchants site. Baaam… the email collection box pops-up. The surfer enters his email and join his news letter. We lost the sale and the merchant sell the product, upsell again again to make money. Damn…

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Gab 14. May 2008, 4:11 pm

This Zach guy is a dick spammer.

@ Stu: I’ve had that happen to me where the ads come outa nowhere. I was a newb at Azoogle back then (the AM is now with CX Digital; I have a different AM at CX, though, Nate, who IS a cool dude ) .

gm 15. May 2008, 4:00 am

Hey thanks for the info. New to the game so this helps. I had a ppc campaign running for few weeks got a decent amount of clicks but zilch conversions. Surely at least 1 person bought something but not not a penny earned. Wonder if there is a way to test short of me buying a product through my aff link(s)? I have since stopped wasting my money on the campaign until I can figure out if it’s just not converting or something fishy going on….Any suggestions?

One Step To Fitness 23. May 2008, 11:12 pm

Dodgy Merchants can also create some sort of a psychological problems if we don’t pay heed to their issue.Yes, a proper follow up is the need of the hour to prevent any sort of troubles.

thediscounthunter 29. May 2008, 1:28 am

Thanks for the post - love this blog always loads of very useful info on here. I have had trouble with some networks in the past and hate what they do to people - after all they are supposed to be helping affiliates!

Steve 12. Jun 2008, 3:04 pm

Great post! A long while ago, I learned the hard way not to mess with the 1-man shows. I recall working several weeks on organic SEO, blogging, establishing backlinks to my parasite blogs etc. and out of nowhere, the merchant got upset because I was out ranking him and making all the sales.

So he shut down the affiliate program. Affiliates beware.

All around great post. I enjoy your blog a lot!

Matt 12. Jun 2008, 11:06 pm

@ Jon,

I could see the alexa search bit if I was just tracking pageviews, but doesn’t adwords and YSM conversion codes only fire if someone went through an adwords ad first?

Luis 13. Jun 2008, 9:03 pm

Certainly better than Clixgalore, my experience with CJ has been great, however, stay away from http://www.clixgalore.com as they are completely incompetent! Their customer service is a disgrace, and they robed over $2,000 from one of my partners! Beware. Their service is horrible and they will rob you blind!!!

Jay | Wealthy Affiliate Insider 07. Sep 2008, 6:10 pm

Viatalk, a big voip company which most people would know about, has an affiliate program through CJ.com but they also have an independently managed one. I didn’t know that they were on CJ and used the latter.

These people are absolutely nasty. I sent them a bunch of sales in Aug 2007 and a bunch of emails requesting payment like 6 months after since I wasn’t getting paid. Right now I pretty much am forgetting about it but I did some research and found that they’ve been ripping off affiliates for a while and still doing it.

Frank 04. Oct 2008, 12:23 am

Lots of people have to make money the dodgy way.

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